The Last Move: Not opening any live trades

3djax

Ive been running the last move live since 2024-05-09, and it hasnt opened any trades for the last five weeks. So I ran the backtesting cycle with tick data also from the same date (2024-05-09) until today (2024-06-12). It opened one trade in the same time cycle.

Is there an issue here?

Here is the Botset parameter file:

Here is the trade opened in back testing:

2024-05-09.cbotset

990B

Here is my live trades for the backtest date it was supposed to open:

Mike

This looks more like a configuration or platform issue and not the cBot if there are different results from your backtest and live trading. I ran a backtest with IC Markets (£1000) over the same period using your settings with tick data and commission set to 0 and there were zero trades.

I would try to optimise your settings.

3djax

Thank you Mike,

I did a test on two different computers, both giving the same result. I also used IC Markets with the commissions set to 0. Im not sure what other settings can be changed exept for the bot parameters.

With the back testing for a full year (2023-06-11 to 2024-06-11) the bot opened 23 trades. Image here:

Mike

Are you using the same cBot settings you provided above for XAUSD?
What are your backtest settings?

If you start a cBot even a day later or earlier your results will not be the same as the results you provided and as you ran your cBot on historical data from 2023-06-11 to 2024-06-11 it is difficult to investigate.

You can only check for the dates you had it running live.

You need to backtest from (2024-05-09) until today (2024-06-12).

3djax

So Ive used the same settings, and in both runs, it opened the trade on 27-05-2024 (the one it did not open live).

Im using the back test setting here:

So it opened the trade (27-05-2024) when I ran it from 2024-05-09 and it opened it running from a year back

Mike

Are you saying that you ran a backtest from 2024-05-09 until today 2024-06-12 and it opened a trade using tick data, but when you ran it live from the same dates, no trade opened?

I ran the test above and there was one trade that closed on 27.05.2024

The volume was 5oz, what was your account size, maybe you did not have enough funds in the live account, but enough in the backtest account. You could also try checking your cBot logs when running live to see if there are any messages.

Usually when there is a difference between the backtest results and live data, it is the settings or a platform issue.

3djax

Yes Mike, no live trades opening, but confirms there should have been trades opened when back testing.

I would just like to point out I doubt its something to do with cTrader because Neptune is running fine with no issues. Neptune opened 11 trades on 27-05-2024 live, and confirmed with back testing (11 trades on 27-05-2024). I also have other bots running fine. This must be something with TLM?

Mike

I will contact the vendor to assist you, but maybe they can investigate further.

Please note that Spotware have published updates recently, there could be a bug with backtesting.

modernandishanjay

Hello and regards,

I am Mohammad Javad, the presenter and developer of the TLM bot. It is important to know that the TLM bot is the most downloaded cTrader bot.

https://ctrader.com/algos/cbots?sorting=popular
https://ctrader.com/algos/cbots/show/3908

As stated in the description of this bot on the cTrader and ClickAlgo websites, this trading bot first detects the trend using the BOS (Break of Structure) of the chart. You might see different trades in the common 3-month and 6-month backtests, as it depends on when the BOS is identified and the trend may be detected differently. Sometimes it may take a while for a new BOS to form on the chart, during which the bot will not make any trades as it is not familiar with the trend. Even in backtests, if you look at the taken trades, you will see that they occur some time after the start date because during that period the bot was waiting to identify the trend with the BOS. The reason for not opening trades for you is the same. The only solution is to keep it running on a VPS to identify the trend, and after recognizing the trend, it will create trades at a good interval and no longer need to re-identify the trades unless TLM is turned off and on again, requiring it to go through this stage again. In the 2.0.9 update, which will be released tomorrow by ClickAlgo, you can manually provide the initial market trend to the bot to save time in trend identification.

3djax

Thank you Mike, and hello Mohammad,

Thank you for your help. This is the information I would need to understand.

My current strategy is to re-run the optimization and back testing on a monthly basis to keep the market conditions up to date. What I gather from what you are saying, is this strategy wont work? I started the bot on 2024-05-09 and the trade was supposed to execute on 2024-05-27. This is 13 trading days with no established trend.

I would like to know what the expected number of days would be for when the bot establishes the trend. Or point me in the direction of how to calculate it if it is in the parameters. This would help me to determine when to overlap optimization periods. I might not use the feature you mentioned in 2.0.9, hence me asking.

Thank you.